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2012
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2012
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Oilers owner Daryl Katz apologizes for Seattle trip with full page newspaper ad (PHOTO)

29 Sep
2012

Earlier this week, Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz caused a stir when he and team executives Patrick LaForge, Craig MacTavish, Kevin Lowe, and franchise icon Wayne Gretzky visited Seattle and toured Key Arena as he fights for a new arena deal. That same day, Seattle officials voted in favor of a plan for a $490 million arena, putting the city in the mix to be the home of a future NHL team should the league expand or have to relocate a franchise.

The visit caused much backlash in the Edmonton, with fans lashing out at the billionaire owner and calling his bluff with this attempt to use Seattle as leverage to get an arena deal done. The Seattle Oilers? Not a chance.

[Nicholas J. Cotsonika: Collusion question goes to the heart of NHL lockout]

Five days later, Katz has realized his mistake and on Saturday took out a full page ad in the Edmonton Journal apologizing for using the Oilers as a pawn in the negotiations.


From the Edmonton Journal:

The next move now comes by Oct. 17, a "drop-dead date" that Edmonton mayor Stephen Mandel has set for the Katz Group to detail what is needed to help reach an agreement on a new arena. "What is it? What do you want? We have been dealing with this for four years. You should know by now. … It's not a complicated issue of what you want. We just don't know what it is," Mandel told the Journal earlier this week.

According to the Edmonton Sun, members of the Katz Group met with city administrator's on Thursday, but Mandel is hopeful the Oct. 17 deadline doesn't come and go without the issues being hashed out together.

Is an apology letter enough to save face with Oilers fans?

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Seattle Oilers: In which everyone calls Edmonton owner Daryl Katz on his bluff

25 Sep
2012

What a day it could have been for Seattle hockey.

The Edmonton Oilers touring the facilities, showing interest in bringing their cache of No. 1 draft picks to the Emerald City, putting the Seattle Whatevers (c'mmmmon Sasquatch!) one Patrick Roy-esque goaltending acquisition away from multiple Stanley Cup — a.k.a. the Nordiques/Avalanche Theorem.

[Related: Idle threat or are Oilers ready to relocate?]

Instead, the NHL's potential relocation to Seattle's spiffy new arena conceded the sports section to inept scab football officials that botched more calls than a fat-fingered blind guy with a rotary phone.

Oh, and then there's the notion that the Oilers will never, ever, ever and never move to Seattle. That Seattle is, like Kansas City before it, a City of Leverage.

Then again, so was Nashville once upon a time — and the Predators are entering their 14th season in the NHL.

The Oilers' visit to Seattle was timed with the City Council approving a new $490 million arena to house an NBA team, and in theory, an NHL team. Meanwhile, the Key Arena will be upgraded to house a team until the new building is complete.

The Katz Group was in Seattle right as Mayor Stephen Mandel set a deadline for Edmonton and the Katz Group to come to an agreement on their 4-year-long negotiation for a new arena. From Bob Black, Executive Vice President, Edmonton Arena Corporation, Katz Group:

"I can confirm that Daryl Katz, Patrick LaForge, Kevin Lowe and others from the Oilers leadership group are in Seattle for meetings and to attend the Seahawks game.

"We remain committed to working with City Administration to achieve a deal commensurate with what Winnipeg and Pittsburgh have done to sustain the NHL in those small markets. If we can achieve such a deal, the Oilers will remain in Edmonton and we can get on with the important work of developing the new arena and investing in the continued revitalization of Edmonton's downtown core.

"Nonetheless, and as the City of Edmonton is aware, the Katz Group has been listening to proposals from a number of potential NHL markets for some time. After more than four years of trying to secure an arena deal and with less than 24 months remaining on the Oilers' lease at Rexall Place, this is only prudent and should come as no surprise.

"We are extremely grateful to Oilers' fans for their patience and loyalty as we work through this process towards what we sincerely hope will be a long and successful future for the Oilers in Edmonton. We have no further comment on the status of our discussions with other markets at this time."

This led to an extraordinary number of people calling Katz on his bluff. Ryan Batty of The Copper & Blue spelled out the illogical:

The threat to move to Seattle, or any other city looking for an NHL for that matter, is an empty threat. Under the terms of the agreement that was reached between the Katz Group and the City last year Katz pays $0 towards the arena construction costs. That's not a typo, he pays nothing. His investment is a loan taken out by the City which he pays back. Katz also gets revenue from the building 48 weeks out of the year not just on hockey nights as is currently the case at Rexall. And this ignores the fact that he's already making money hand over fist in a small and outdated arena.

(An aside: Tyler Dellow has some good information on Katz, the team's current terrible lease and how Oilers ownership got what they bargained for.)

Back to Batty:

There is no other way to put it: Katz is sitting on a gold mine in Edmonton right now.

By comparison he'd have to pay rent in Seattle and would only get 45 nights worth of revenue in exchange. Also there would likely be a relocation fee he'd have to pay to the NHL which would come out of his pocket. And, although it's a bigger market from a people perspective, I don't think the NHL market in Seattle is as strong in terms of fan support as Edmonton is. Relocating the Oilers there or anywhere else makes zero economic sense if there is going to be a new building in Edmonton.

From Jeffrey Chapman of Oil on Whyte:

Mr. Black, I understand you're likely just the lip service of this press release, but I didn't think I would be required to put on my boots so early in your conversation.  The Katz Group (and the rest of the NHL watching world) are fully aware that they've got themselves a sweetheart deal going for them right now.  You've got a team that's currently making money hand over fist, you've got a season ticket waiting list that's longer than the Great Wall of China, and you consistently sell out every home game even though the product has been substandard since 2006.

Your visit to Seattle is hollow, Mr. Katz.  Everybody and their mother knows that you're a savvy, smart guy.  There's no way you're going to walk away from (a conservative estimate of) $250M+ and a guaranteed sellout every night in favour of a market that's unproven. You've  said that you'll kick in $100M back in 2011, so that's three hundred and fifty million dollars to build this damn arena.

From Damien Cox:

What he's trying to do is wring more concessions out of Edmonton on a new $475 million arena after first agreeing to a deal, then subsequently telling city council he wants millions of dollars in new concessions.

The Oilers are already profitable and have an extremely loyal fan base that has continued to buy tickets despite the dreadful showing of the team in recent years under Katz's ownership. To reflect upon the passing last week of Art Modell, the man who moved the Cleveland Browns to Baltimore and in so doing became the most hated man in Ohio, Katz clearly knows as an Edmonton native he would be risking similar pariah status if he tried to move the Oilers.

He isn't going to. He just wants to try and blackmail the city and is using Seattle to help him in the same way Peter Pocklington once threatened to move to Hamilton and Houston.

Indeed. And in the same way John McMullen used Nashville in 1995 — during a New Jersey Devils' Cup run, no less — to get a better lease deal at the Meadowlands.

The same way Mario Lemieux used Kansas City — "go, have a nice dinner, come back" — in order to get a $290 million hockey arena built for the Pittsburgh Penguins.

[Also: What We Learned: 30 NHL team updates]

What's different about both of those cases is that the arenas they would have escaped to were arenas with incredibly sweet lease agreements — Tim Leiweke, president of Anschutz Entertainment Group and governor for the Los Angeles Kings, offered the Penguins a chance to play rent-free and be equal managing partners in the Sprint Center.

The other difference: Gary Bettman is much less interested with playing the relocation game — at least at the moment — than with working to keep the Oilers in Edmonton.

So Seattle is a ploy, a gambit, a photo posted on Facebook to make your ex jealous enough to take you back. Hell, even the NHL in Seattle blog isn't taking the bait:

Don't believe the hype around Edmonton. Edmonton Oilers owner, Daryl Katz was reported as touring Seattle KeyArena today. This is way way premature but the Oilers aren't going anywhere. Here are the reasons:

1) NBA must come first. I expect this to be 6 months to a year out at best.

2) Edmonton has always had one of the top 10 teams for ticket revenue. To expect the same Arena Revenue here in Seattle would be ridiculous and won't happen.

3) The Oilers have had total home attendance of 690,399 the last 6 years…that's max capacity.

4) Seattle NHL team will have to pay more than current EDM deal on the table

5) The NHL cannot play in Key Arena…1 year maybe but that is a stretch.

6) We are talking about the Oilers!!!!

It's a leverage play for Katz. This is part of the Arena subsidy playbook. (Mario in KC) Don't believe it. The Katz tour has been getting a lot of airtime here as well. It's not fair to the hockey fans here either.

If anything, this visit and the previous arena news does elevate Seattle to next-in-line for an NHL team in the U.S.

Logic dictates that it would be another U.S. team that relocates before a Canadian team. And when the next one decides to, would it head to Emerald pastures or to Make It Eight north of the border?

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Oilers ownership group in Seattle (Yahoo! Sports)

24 Sep
2012
EDMONTON, Alberta (AP) -- With plans for a new arena in doubt, the Edmonton Oilers say they are keeping their options open.
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Oilers talking relocation to Seattle or playing arena deal hardball?

24 Sep
2012

The NHL owners and executives may be muzzled right now during the lockout, but as Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz just proved, you don't need to say words to cause a ruckus.

You just need to tacitly threaten to move your team.

The same day Edmonton Mayor Stephen Mandel admitted his own frustration with the slowly progressing negotiations to build a $450 million downtown arena, setting Oct. 17 as a drop dead date for the Katz Group to lay out its demands (one of which is reportedly a multi-million dollar subsidy from the city), Katz fired a shot of his own: Visiting Key Arena in Seattle, along with team president Patrick LaForge and Wayne Gretzky.

You know, just in case things don't work out in Edmonton.

It is, ostensibly, little more than a negotiating tactic.

The Oilers released a coy little press release late Monday that basically spelled it out. From Bob Black, Executive Vice President of the Katz Group:

"I can confirm that Daryl Katz, Patrick LaForge, Kevin Lowe and others from the Oilers leadership group are in Seattle for meetings and to attend the Seahawks game.

"We remain committed to working with City Administration to achieve a deal commensurate with what Winnipeg and Pittsburgh have done to sustain the NHL in those small markets. If we can achieve such a deal, the Oilers will remain in Edmonton and we can get on with the important work of developing the new arena and investing in the continued revitalization of Edmonton's downtown core.

"Nonetheless, and as the City of Edmonton is aware, the Katz Group has been listening to proposals from a number of potential NHL markets for some time. After more than four years of trying to secure an arena deal and with less than 24 months remaining on the Oilers' lease at Rexall Place, this is only prudent and should come as no surprise."

My favorite flourish: "To attend the Seahawks game." Uh-huh.

This approach isn't that dissimilar from the tactic Mario Lemieux and company used to get the Penguins a new arena deal in 2007. It was extremely effective then, as Lemieux was quoted as saying the team would "aggressively pursue relocation" after talks broke down on March 6.

After all, Kansas City had offered the Penguins a fancy new home, rent-free.

Exactly one week later, a new arena deal was announced.

Of course, effective as this tactic can be, it has a tendency to alienate fans, and Edmonton will be no exception. From David Staples at the Edmonton Journal:

For the past few years there's been a compact between the Oilers and their most important fans — the season ticket holders — that goes like this: if you have patience, if you support the Oilers in down times when the team is losing, that will give management time to rebuild this team properly, bringing in outstanding talent with the high draft picks that come with finishing low in the standings.

[...] For Katz to now visit Seattle and to suggest the that all bets are off with the future of the team after 2014, when his lease at Rexall runs up, is a slap in the face to any fans who has bought into this deal. Essentially the message is: Thanks for your support, but we might well be moving this team we built partly on your dollar and your patience. Fans in Seattle or Quebec City or some other place will get to enjoy that squad with Hall, Nugent-Hopkins and Yakupov.

Hockey fans across the continent are feeling especially sensitive right now, but Oilers fans have been through a lot over the last half-decade. With the talent in their pipeline, it would be an absolute kick in the face if they were to become hockey's version of the Oklahoma City Thunder. (Or the 1995 Colorado Avalanche.)

But, as fitting as it would be for the Seattle fan base to get the prospect-rich franchise this time around, it's likely just a tease.

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What We Learned: At least you’re not an Edmonton Oilers fan

24 Sep
2012

Hello, this is a feature that will run through the entire season and aims to recap the weekend's events and boils those events down to one admittedly superficial fact or stupid opinion about each team. Feel free to complain about it.

We're all going through a pretty tough time right now. Preseason games are already canceled league-wide, and even if you don't like preseason games — glorified AHL games featuring two players you've heard of — what the lack of those games portends is at least significant.

In another week, we'll probably have lost some actual regular-season games to match all the torched exhibitions, and that's generally pretty bad news.

But even if this affects you more deeply than other fans -- such as if you're a season-ticket holder or had one of your planned handful of trips to the rink slated for early October -- you can lean back in your chair right now and be thankful that your team isn't actively trying to wage a psychological war on you.

That is, if you're a fan of any team but the Edmonton Oilers.

In case you've not heard, the Oilers are going through a bit of a situation right now. The Edmonton City Council was all set to help owner Darryl Katz fund the construction of a new arena, which is probably needed because Rexall Place is a decrepit hellhole, as well as a business district designed to revitalize the city's downtown area. Now Katz wants more money because of… well, I'm pretty sure there's a good reason.

The problem is that when this drug store billionaire went to the City Council with his hand out a second time, the elected officials swatted it away and refused to pass the hat. They were already ponying up the hundreds of millions previously agreed to, and thus didn't feel as though any additional funds because construction costs are on the rise or because they don't want to pay for Katz to also build a casino or for any other reason he's acting like he needs more money.

And thus, acrimony. Lots of it in fact.

(Coming Up: The Devallano fine; lockout news from coast to coast; Coach Sidney Crosby; Nathan Horton stays home; Ovechkin in the KHL; Sergei Bobrovsky is not good; Carrie Underwood on the lockout; Vladimir Tarasenko update; Mike Gillis vs. Cap Geek; and another stupid Coyotes deadline.)

First Katz started making noise about how if the city doesn't give him the money, they might not be able to build the arena at all. That quickly devolved into his more or less threatening to move the team to who-knows-where and take with it all the promise that its current young roster plainly holds. Larry Brooks was right when he called it a shakedown.

Oilers fans are getting edgy. The prospect of the team moving out of a hockey-crazy market like Edmonton seems slim, especially with so few viable relocation options currently anywhere in the US or Canada. Plus, what with all the warring over revenues at the league level, it seems more likely that Gary Bettman would try to force Katz to sell the team rather than let him just move it to Kansas City or wherever.

Nonetheless, this hasn't stopped the Oilers themselves from trying to leverage that ill feeling among its fanbase into pressure on the city council itself. The situation may have come to a head on Saturday night, when the team's official Twitter feed retweeted a story from John MacKinnon, who seems to think the whole thing has gotten a bit silly if nothing else.

The text of that tweet?

"Oilers not locked into [Edmonton]. [Arena] deal fail would mean loss of NHL club."

In it, MacKinnon said that for local residents, ponying up the extra money Katz wants is probably a preferable outcome to losing the team altogether.

That the Oilers' official feed retweeted the story says a lot: That this is the kind of depth to which the organization is willing to stoop to get what it wants, and perhaps that the Journal, which has been a hype man for Katz not unlike the Mouth of Sauron these past several months, is going to function as a propagandist for the duration of the war.

This is deplorable stuff from the Oilers and Katz, essentially telling the fans that if they don't start leaning on their city council members, and by extension fund the arena deal with money out of their own pockets, then they will lose their team. The move is cartoonish in its cynical villainy, holding a city's love of a bad hockey team hostage to bilk taxpayers out of $25 million more than they'd already committed to the project. The way things are going Katz is about a week away from building a giant machine to block out the sun.

The issue is this: The owners already have a PR problem. Rightly or wrongly, they're largely seen as greedy jerks who are stealing hockey from the fans. The rhetoric against them has, perhaps, reached a point where it's over the top. But with Katz doing this, well, sometimes people go too far, and this is one of them. Not only is he one of the 29 owners who voted to uphold Jeremy Jacobs' initial motion to lock out the players for the second time in eight years, but he's also now demanding a ransom for his team in a petulant attempt to get what he feels he's owed even though no one ever agreed to the terms he's now laying out.

He's within his rights to do it, I guess, but he doesn't have to be such a [expletive] about it.

What We Learned

Anaheim Ducks: The Ducks moved their annual golf tournament, which usually takes place prior to training camp, to being mid-season, which doesn't seem like a good sign. On the plus side, they at least aren't planning to lay off any full-time employees just yet.

Boston Bruins: Nathan Horton won't play overseas during the lockout, which his agent says "has nothing to do with his health," presumably while winking a lot and crossing his fingers.

Buffalo Sabres: The first All-American Prospects Game will take place in Buffalo next week, and tickets aren't selling very well, despite being available online for as little as $5. If you're in the Buffalo area, buy a ticket to this. It's going to be good and will probably be the only hockey at First Niagara Center for a while.

Calgary Flames: The Flames and Oilers are now waiting for a decision from the Alberta Labour Board about whether locking out teams in that province is legal. "The Oilers and the Flames are Alberta-based businesses and employ employees," said NHLPA lawyer Robert Blair. "When in Rome, you have to do as the Romans do." Which is why the Alberta Labour Board also hasn't made the playoffs the last three years.

Carolina Hurricanes: Hurricanes prospect Victor Rask left for Charlotte Checkers training camp and, if he does well there, probably won't come back to the Calgary Hitmen. It should be noted, however, that Hitmen coach Mike Williamson believes there's "a decent chance" Rask will be sent back to juniors.

Chicago Blackhawks: Michael Frolik is off to the Czech Republic, and is the first Blackhawk to bolt overseas. No one tell Patrick Kane about all the vodka in Russia. We might never get him back.

Colorado Avalanche: While most hockey players are taking the lockout as a chance to keep playing elsewhere, not so much for Ryan O'Byrne. He's getting behind the bench for the BCHL's Victoria Grizzlies as an assistant coach. That's thinking way ahead for his post-hockey career. Dude's only 28.

Columbus Blue Jackets: Sergei Bobrovsky signed with SKA St. Petersburg over the weekend because they identified a team need: a goalie who's not very good. Headline: "Bobrovsky Doesn't Expect Guaranteed Ice Time at SKA." No good.

Dallas Stars: Frölunda is building a super-team. Not only are they negotiating with Loui Eriksson to come play for them, but also two guys you might have heard of called Henrik Lundqvist and Erik Karlsson. Which doesn't seem fair.

Detroit Red Wings presented by Amway: Funny to me that the NHL fined Jimmy Devellano for saying the owners consider the players and team employees to be "cattle" but all that talk about how there's an unwritten rule that you don't sign other teams' RFAs has largely gone by the wayside.

Edmonton Oilers: Great point here: We have no idea whether Justin Schultz is actually ready for the NHL, and therefore a little bit of seasoning in the AHL during the lockout will likely do him a world of good.

Florida Panthers: Mike Weaver on the lockout -- "The players don't want this, and I'm pretty sure the Florida Panthers organization doesn't want this. We had a good season last year and were ready to build on that." Don't forget, though, that Panthers owner Cliff Viner was one of the 30 owners to have voted unanimously for the lockout, so there goes that theory.

Los Angeles Kings: Darryl Sutter has simply continued to farm during the lockout and that looks like the plan for a while. So at least someone is working.

Minnesota Wild: You're not going to believe this, but Niklas Backstrom can't go to Europe because……….. that's right, he's injured.

Montreal Canadiens: Former Habs first-rounder Louis Leblanc is gearing up for another AHL season, and he could be ready to tear that league apart. He spent 41 games last year with Montreal and had 22 points in 31 games in the AHL.

Nashville Predators: Carrie Underwood on the lockout: "Is it wrong for me to be a little happy (about the lockout)? I mean, 'I'm sorry for you, but it's great for me.'" God I hate her.

New Jersey Devils: Is Marty Brodeur thinking about going to Europe? "I know I'm closing doors in Europe now because I'm going to wait a little bit, but I'd like to go somewhere to play by November if I can get an opportunity somewhere." I hear European countries have great pension programs for seniors.

New York Islanders: When and if this season starts, is Matt Moulson due for a decline? I dunno, I feel like he can reasonably expect to keep shooting 16.4 percent forever.

New York Rangers: More on Henrik Lundqvist's potential decision to return to Sweden or stay home: He just had a baby girl with his wife, but also would like to play on the same team with his twin brother. So, no decision yet but he has good reasons to go with either option.

Ottawa Senators: A bunch of maniacs pulled Air Canada jets that weighed 130,000 pounds each 12 feet to raise $70,000 for the Sens Foundation. Yup, It's A Lockout.

Philadelphia Flyers: It's been a tough couple of months for Danny Briere. Seriously, read this whole thing, it's very good.

Phoenix Coyotes: Today is Day No. 45 since Jude LaCava of Fox 10 in Arizona said Greg Jamison would have the deal for the Coyotes sewn up within the next five days. Meanwhile, here's another stupid deadline!

Pittsburgh Penguins: Sidney Crosby becoming the de facto player-coach in informal workouts with his teammates is about the least surprising thing I've read about the lockout in weeks.

San Jose Sharks: Dan Boyle finally has this whole lockout thing figured out: "I think they want us to miss some paychecks, is what I think. For them, I guess they figure they don't have to pay us right now, so they've got nothing to gain by settling this thing." Tune in for Elementary, starring Dan Boyle, CBS Thursdays!

St. Louis Blues: Vladimir Tarasenko was going to go to SKA St. Petersburg but instead he's not. Apparently his agent changed the terms of the deal at the last minute. Who knows, it's Russia.

Tampa Bay Lightning: If Rick Nash had a hat trick in the first period of his first game in the Swiss A League, then Steven Stamkos would score 60 in his.

Toronto Maple Leafs: This just in -- It sucks being the Maple Leafs' goalie, says newspaper in town where it sucks being the Canucks' goalie.

Vancouver Canucks: I really like the idea of Mike Gillis fooling around with CapGeek to figure out how to work his team's salary situation once hockey comes back. "We're working on our cap issues right now, carefully calculating a number of different scenarios that may occur after this is over and we're trying to be as ready as we possibly can be when play starts again," he told the Province.

Washington Capitals: Alex Ovechkin had his team's only goal in Dynamo Moscow's loss to Ilya Kovalchuk's SKA. Best part of this gamer is that it reminded me that Maxim Afinogenov is still playing hockey.

Winnipeg Jets: Jets players were all set to get in a quick practice at MTS Iceplex, but they couldn't because, I swear, they were locked out. The only keys were in the locked dressing room, and in MTS Centre, where they're not allowed to go.

Gold Star Award

Rick Nash and Joe Thornton are already laying the Swiss A League to waste. A combined eight points in their first game for HC Davos, which seems totally unfair.

Minus of the Weekend
Is it just me or does Daryl Katz have the same haircut as Bruce Willis's wife in the original "Die Hard"? I'll hang up and listen.

Perfect HFBoards Trade Proposal of the Week

User "coldsteelonice84" is trying to keep things interesting.

[quote]To Boston:

Kane
Hjalmarsson
Emery

To Chicago:
Krejci
Hamilton
Khudobin[/quote]
Let's go.

Signoff

I can't eat excuses!

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Edmonton Oilers owner Daryl Katz gave an interview to the Edmonton Journal regarding his quest for a publicly funded new arena, and the transcript is as convoluted as hearing my buddy and I argue whether an X-Wing could defeat a Battlestar Galactica Viper in a dogfight. (The answer, of course, is the X-Wing; even if the targeting computer fails, Obi-Wan can guide your weapons system.)

But there were a few interesting moments among the political blather and imprudent threats — like the concept of Edmonton being "one of the smallest of small markets," as Katz put it.

From an outside Alberta perspective, that seems possible. The team's financial problems in the past left a stench of uncertainty.  We hear the small market harangue every summer during the free agent frenzy, as the Oilers overpay to attract talent.

But is Edmonton really a small market team in today's NHL?

Here's David Staples quizzing Katz:

DS: … what would you say first to the size of the Edmonton market right now, the size of the Edmonton market going forward, and this notion you should be doing more to build this privately as we saw Toronto, Ottawa, Vancouver.

DK: Well, No. 1, I can tell you the way we look at the markets. Markets are determined by the size of their media market. The size of the media market determines TV revenue, advertising and sponsorship revenue. Edmonton and Winnipeg are tied for the smallest markets in the league. That significantly affects revenue and the ability to grow. So I don't know where you're getting your numbers, but we in the league don't look at it that way.

Later, on tickets:

DS: Does not Edmonton, though, have a larger base of people who are willing to pay top dollar for NHL tickets and does that not also something (that's used for) a formulation of how big the market is?

DK: No, it doesn't. Edmonton could be viewed as a very loyal hockey market but you have to also understand we have the lowest corporate season-ticket base in the National Hockey League. We have more of an individual season-ticket base when you look at every other team in the league. That's something that's a challenge for the Oilers. To be frank, that's something that the Calgary Flames, for instance, don't have. They have a very big corporate base.

Forbes rates the Oilers at No. 15 in its latest team valuations, worth $212 million (US). Gate receipts were listed at $53 million from the previous season, with player costs at $55 million. Overall revenue has grown for the last three years, including a jump from $87 million to $96 million in the last two seasons.

For perspective, that $96 million in revenue puts them in the range with the San Jose Sharks ($96M) and the Minnesota Wild ($97M) and ahead of the Washington Capitals ($94M) — none of whom are usually listed about the League's small market teams (at least not in the last few seasons).

Jonathan Willis of Oilers Nation has long argued that the Oilers are not, in fact, playing in a small market now, and that the definition is for political purposes:

The Oilers are a big-market team. The Edmonton Oilers are the seventh-most expensive team to watch in the entire NHL (warning: PDF). Despite this, and despite being a terrible hockey team, they sell out every night. How many markets in the league would support that? It doesn't matter how many people live in the city, or what the size of the potential television market is, or any of the rest of it: all that matters is the number of people willing to pay to watch hockey. It's higher in Edmonton than it is in the majority of NHL markets; ergo, the club is a big-market team.

It is in the Oilers' interest to appear to be a small-market club. The Edmonton Oilers are negotiating with the city for support in building a new arena. Naturally, the city wants to hang on to NHL hockey; it's easier for the Oilers to extract money if the perception is that there's some danger in relocating. Obviously, there's an incentive for the team's ownership to play up that risk. Of course, as we've just pointed out, a team that sells out the building despite prices well above average and a club well below average is pretty much a dream scenario for an NHL owner.

Agreed -- Edmonton's small market be definition, but not in actual revenue generated.

The full Katz transcript is here. Give it a read and try to figure out how an owner who claims the team doesn't have an ounce of the corporate support that teams like the Flames have will suddenly fill pretty new suites in his arena.

Oh, but what an arena

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Oilers, Hall agree to 7-year extension (Yahoo! Sports)

22 Aug
2012
EDMONTON, Alberta (AP) -- Taylor Hall is in for the long haul in Edmonton.
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Oilers, Hall agree to 7-year extension (Yahoo! Sports)

22 Aug
2012
EDMONTON, Alberta (AP) -- The Edmonton Oilers have locked up forward Taylor Hall with a seven-year contract extension.
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